Wednesday, February 08, 2006

No Comment

In light of recent posts on many blogs in defense of the publication and dissemination of the Mohammed cartoons in the name of freedom of expression, I wonder if any blogger has reflected on their attitude to blog comments.

Many bloggers warn their readers that "flamers" will not be tolerated in their comments boxes. Others go further still and post a comments "policy" on their sites stating their right to delete comments without explanation. But is there something of hypocrisy in censoring a commenter on your own blog while steadfastly proclaiming the importance of defending freedom of expression in your blog posts?

Like many, I imagine, I got into blogging through first reading blogs and posting in their comments boxes. Now and again I got into contentious quibbles with other commenters. Although I have never "flamed" and I have always tried to avoid emotive language in trying to make my point, I don't have any real problem with flamers as I don't expect other commenters to adopt my own personal standards of what I believe is reasonable debate.

Of course, people will have different ideas about blogs and comments boxes. I suppose many bloggers operate under the idea that they have absolute discretion as to what kind of comment is acceptable or unacceptable on their blogs. For them, comments boxes are the instant equivalent of newspapers' letters to the editor.

Most internet forums have moderators responsible for ensuring that comments are on-topic and not offensive. While I question the necessity for these moderators, I can see the argument in their favour: namely that in this situation the moderators are impartial and their purpose is more or less to facilitate the discussion at hand and protect participants' sensibilities by weeding out the irrelevant and/or offensive posts.

With blogs, however, the people who exercises this job are the bloggers themselves, and in deleting comments they cannot be said necessarily to be facilitating the debate but rather controlling it. Often it is not their readers' sensibilities that they are seeking to protect but their own.

Yahoo and, more recently, Google, have come under fire from free-speech advocates for agreeing to Chinese government demands that they censor their Chinese search engines. Like these free-speech advocates, I believe the internet is a new frontier in the fight for complete freedom of expression and no censorship. To me there is something inherently contradictory in a blogger moderating their comments box.

In recent months I have been drawn to reading Irish blogs and I have often left comments on posts that have interested me. I'm not that au fait with what other Irish bloggers repeatedly refer to as the "Irish blogosphere" but I can see that it is still very much in its infancy. Anybody who reads blogs beyond the Irish sphere will have come across comments boxes with 200 or more responses. Often these comments are comprised of endless backs and forths between two people who steadfastly refuse to take on board any of their adversaries arguments. Often they contain flaming posts which ridicule the blogger. And often they contain lively discussions between two or more people who have long since gone off-topic. Damien Mulley recently asked who the first blogger in Ireland was and he defined "blog" as the first site to allow comments on a page as opposed to in a guestbook. I think it's fair to say that comments boxes are considered to be important parts of a blog (I know that many successful blogs do not offer comments, nevertheless).

As I acquaint myself with the "Irish blogosphere" I am becoming aware of bloggers' tendencies to delete even reasonable comments from their sites. Leaving aside my earlier point about hypocrisy, I wonder, in the interests of seeing the "Irish blogosphere" grow, and while Irish bloggers are engaging in an attempt to find out more about each other's socio-political backgrounds, is now not a good moment for them also to reflect on and discuss the role the comments box has to play in the development of their blogosphere, and the justifications as well as the implications, if any, of deleting comments from their blogs?

19 Comments:

Blogger EWI said...

(Are you perchance referring to the Freedom Institute?)

4:42 AM GMT+1  
Blogger purefunction said...

No, I'm not. My post addresses the phenomenon generally. If I'd wished to target any specific webiste, I would have referred specifically to it. Actually, the two cases brought to my attention recently were on two individual blogs.

10:32 AM GMT+1  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather have my comments deleted than have an opinion described by words like 'reckless' just because your viewpoint differs.

I was also surprised to see an individual blogger recently censor comments on a divisive post on their blog. My problem is that the individual is a journalist and so I found the censorship incomprehensible.

3:35 PM GMT+1  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was recently the victim of FI and an individual not distantly connected with it. The fucker misrepresented my original comments and then deleted my reasoned rebuttal. You wouldn't get it from the PP.

Still I'm not bitter.

2:02 AM GMT+1  
Blogger Paul O'Mahony (Cork) said...

What are "flamers"? This is my first time reading your blog and I'll have to read it more carefully. But I'm a new commer to blogging and I'm still recovering from the idea that there are people out there who censor comments on their blog. How petty. I'm sure most don't censor. But now that I think about it I probably mean: I can't imagine myself censoring a comment.

1:35 AM GMT+1  
Blogger purefunction said...

Hi Paul. Thanks for stopping by. A "flamer" is a person who leaves comments that are not constructive or well thought out but rather are dismissive or insulting or hostile. Often the result is that somebody else, often the person who was the object of the flamer's comments, gets riled and posts a counter-attack. Hence "flaming" takes place in the comments box. Such comments can often get very personal and acrimonious and lend nothing to the debate. In widely-read blogs with a high number of posters, the blogger often has a comments policy warning flamers that their posts will be deleted. Repeat offenders often get blocked. You can see how this can be justifiable on a blog that might get more than 250 comments per post. It's obviously employed to facilitate the debate and discussion of the readers.

Your stance on censoring comments depends I suppose on your attitude towards your blog. If you believe strongly in personal ownership of your blog, then you may feel within your rights to delete a comment that you don't like. I find this approach hard to justify. To me, anybody who takes the time to read something I've written is doing me a favour. Especially if he's challenging what I've written.
With regard to silly personal attacks etc. on blogs, I don't find them threatening and they only betray the poster's silliness. I don't see the need to go and delete them. Then again, to others (once again depending on ownership), such comments might be perceived as the equivalent of grafitti on the splendid facade of their spot in cyberspace. To paraphrase a well known saying, I call it "shutting up your foes to spite debate."

3:01 AM GMT+1  
Blogger Paul O'Mahony (Cork) said...

Thanks for such a considerate response. There's quite a lot to this blogging art. I suppose I'll gradually become aware of my own preferences and prejudices. All the blogs I've read so far have maybe 10 comments maximum. Is that because they are Irish blogs and US/other blogs are read by bigger numbers?
Which is the most widely read Irish blog? I've been sampling a few from the list of those nominated for a prize. But it's a slow business. Maybe I should wait until the shortlist is announced.
The idea of a blog as a work of art, with strictly controlled blemishes, amuses me. Like you I don't see the point of allowing comments and then controlling them so much that only those that comply with your preferences get published.
I suppose it all depends on why people blog.
Do you know of a good list of the reasons why people blog? I feel like writing one but it would be interesting to see what exists already.

Thanks again for your response.

2:35 PM GMT+1  
Blogger purefunction said...

Hi Paul

I'm afraid I don't know which Irish blog is the most widely read. While I've been reading international blogs for about 3 years, I only started reading Irish blogs about 3 months ago!

Nor have I a list of why people blog!(Not much use, am I?) Have you googled the phrase "why people blog"? You might get something.

I'd say there are many reasons for the huge difference in comment numbers between Irish and international blogs. First of all, our population is tiny. The number of people from abroad interested in commenting on Irish affairs is not significant. Of course, Irish bloggers also comment on international affairs, but so far no Irish blogger has established for themselves any sort of international reputation. That, I imagine, would require them to devote themselves exclusively to international and US events and to really be offering something incisive that other well established blogs aren't offering. A difficult task, indeed.
It's also worth bearing in mind that ADSL penetration in Ireland is much lower than in the US (don't have the figures to hand but there's a significant difference. So, doubtless the Irish blogosphere will go from strength to strength but will take its time. I suggest you ask Sinead at www.sineadgleeson.com/blog about the most read Irish blog and the list of reasons. She's usually a good source for that kind of stuff!

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